{"id":485,"date":"2016-03-30T11:54:02","date_gmt":"2016-03-30T09:54:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/?p=485"},"modified":"2016-04-14T18:33:52","modified_gmt":"2016-04-14T16:33:52","slug":"pronoms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/pronoms\/","title":{"rendered":"pronoms"},"content":{"rendered":"<ol>\n<li>Quant a les formes plenes dels pronoms, la gram\u00e0tica de Pompeu Fabra (1918, ed. Aqua, p\u00e0g. 63) indica:<br \/>\n<blockquote><p>Immediatament davant del verb s\u00f3n possibles les formes <i>me, nos, te, vos, se, lo, los, ne<\/i>, i les formes <i>em, ens, et, us, es, el, els, en<\/i>. Cal, per\u00f2, advertir que, en aquest cas, <i>nos, lo<\/i> i <i>los<\/i> s\u00f3n arcaics o dialectals, i que, en general, les formes refor\u00e7ades (<i>em<\/i>, &amp;.), i \u00e0dhuc <i>us<\/i>, s\u00f3n preferibles a les plenes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>Pel que fa a l&#8217;ordre dels pronoms, hem de tindre present que la gram\u00e0tica de l&#8217;<span class=\"versaleta\">avl<\/span> despr\u00e9s d&#8217;assenyalar \u00abque en cap cas es poden invertir\u00bb, afig la precisi\u00f3 seg\u00fcent (<span class=\"versaleta\"><em>gnv<\/em><\/span>, 22.4.2):<br \/>\n<blockquote><p>Precisions sobre les combinacions de pronoms febles:<em>a<\/em>) \u00c9s habitual la posposici\u00f3 del pronom <em>se<\/em> als pronoms de primera i segona persona, i al pronom de datiu <em>li:<\/em> <span class=\"exemple\"><em>Me s&#8217;ha fet tard<\/em><\/span> (en lloc de <span class=\"exemple\"><em>Se m&#8217;ha fet tard<\/em><\/span>). <span class=\"exemple\"><em>Li s&#8217;ha perdut<\/em><\/span> (en lloc de <span class=\"exemple\"><em>Se li ha perdut<\/em><\/span>). El canvi d&#8217;orde no \u00e9s acceptable en registres formals.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Per tant, l&#8217;acad\u00e8mia indica que \u00e9s una q\u00fcesti\u00f3 estil\u00edstica que actualment \u00e9s considerada no acceptable en registres formals. I els estils anem fent-los i refent-los. Al cap i a la fi, podem trobar eixos canvis d&#8217;ordre dialectalment i hist\u00f2ricament. Per exemple, la combinaci\u00f3 <em>li la<\/em>, ben estesa en valenci\u00e0 actualment, prov\u00e9 del canvi d&#8217;ordre de l&#8217;anterior <em>la li<\/em>; tamb\u00e9 podem observar la posici\u00f3 d&#8217;altres pronoms en refer\u00e8ncies liter\u00e0ries antigues:<\/p>\n<blockquote>[<span class=\"versaleta\"><em>gnv<\/em><\/span>, 22.4.2] <span class=\"exemple\">\u00abMas sabeu quan la li dar\u00e0, aquesta possessi\u00f3?\u00bb<\/span>, Sant Vicent Ferrer, <em>Sermons.<\/em><br \/>\n[<em>Tirant lo Blanch<\/em> de Joanot Martorell] <span class=\"exemple\">\u00abFeu lavar les mans a hun home e torne-les-se a lavar.\u00bb<\/span><br \/>\n[<em>Gram\u00e0tica hist\u00f2rica catalana<\/em> de Francesc de B. Moll; <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.es\/books?id=a69HJ6YdZfgC&amp;pg=PA321&amp;lpg=PA321&amp;dq=%22E+l%27abat+lo+li+don%C3%A0%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=OpZp4DGYBS&amp;sig=aW5ml5UtLoxhn7Hr6lKmEMjnTss&amp;hl=ca&amp;ei=hIKjSvTVF9LajQe4uLytDg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=3#v=onepage&amp;q=%22E%20l%27abat%20lo%20li%20don%C3%A0%22&amp;f=false\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Google Llibres<\/span><\/a>] <span class=\"exemple\">\u00ab\u00bbE l&#8217;abat <em>lo li<\/em> don\u00e0\u00bb (Eximplis)\u00bb<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quant a les formes plenes dels pronoms, la gram\u00e0tica de Pompeu Fabra (1918, ed. Aqua, p\u00e0g. 63) indica: Immediatament davant del verb s\u00f3n possibles les formes me, nos, te, vos, se, lo, los, ne, i les formes em, ens, et, us, es, el, els, en. Cal, per\u00f2, advertir que, en aquest cas, nos, lo i [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50],"tags":[12,48,27],"class_list":["post-485","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-lletra-p","tag-normativa","tag-pronoms","tag-sintaxi"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/485","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=485"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/485\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":502,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/485\/revisions\/502"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=485"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=485"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cdlpv.org\/fitxes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=485"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}